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Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

tamar — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:18:26 -0000

Simkin: that is normal. If you wanted to see what was in upcoming, you just go to http://digg.com/design/upco.... Why repeat that column in the "hot in all topics" column? The right-hand column is algorithmically selected (though many people think it's random and doesn't matter). It's never been any different, either.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Simkin — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:11:48 -0000

Few days ago I registered a small stream of referrals to my website from Digg. I followed the link in my access log and arrived at http://digg.com/all/design/... where my "artist or ape" page was in the left column on the fourth place with 32 diggs. However, it was absent in the right column "hot in design" which they include in feeds. At the same time "hot" column included pages with only 4 diggs. Somehow for Digg 4 diggs is hot but 32 is not.

At the moment my webpage is absent even from the left column, but I saved a screenshot http://reverent.org/webarch...

Here is what my webpage finally got on Digg

http://digg.com/design/An_a...

51 diggs, 4 comments

In contrast, on the Spanish language social bookmark site

http://meneame.net/story/un...

it got 378 meneos and 99 comentarios and was on their front page for many hours. This is despite that my page is in English.

Some weird things must be happening on Digg.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Banned From Digg (again) — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:47:55 -0000

digg sucks big time..

I say global ban on those loosers..

Bring on Web 3.0 asap!

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Eric Seiden — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:21:26 -0000

I agree with most of what's here. I walked away from Digg and removed all DIGG THIS stuff from blog (except one generic Digg link which still remains). I have nothing against Digg but something doesn't smell or feel right.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Lee Odden — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:55:43 -0000

Hey Tamar, too bad about Chris' site. Our blog domain has been on some kind of banned list (arguably unjustly) for well over a year - LOL and I haven't missed Digg traffic a bit. I'd pay money for someone to find anything spammy on our site. :)

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Skitzzo — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:36:33 -0000

As a previously VERY active member of Digg and almost a top 100 user, I couldn't agree with you more. However, this has been an issue with Digg for quite some time and unfortunately they don't seem interested in addressing the concerns raised by several of the people that have contributed the most to their site. In fact, top users have to have more diggs for their stories to hit the front page. That to me, suggests Digg want's you to use their site, and then penalizes you for doing so once you reach a certain point. How does that make sense? And yet, no word from Digg on any of these tougher issues... they're too busy screwing up the comment displays and things like that.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

David — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:54:12 -0000

Answser your support emails mr rose, you coward.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

MG Siegler — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:12:21 -0000

I'm with you Tamar, but as usual, I'm afraid the silence from Digg on this issue will be deafening.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

tamar — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:16:16 -0000

Anon: perhaps you should listen to the podcast that MrBabyMan participates in (www.thedrilldown.com). He Diggs stories that are of interest to him and those stories may not necessarily have potential to hit the main page. Again, who cares?

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Michael Stokes — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:10:08 -0000

If anyone from Digg Inc. is listening I would also like to add the following: It has become clear that your overall traffic is dropping precipitously (ComScore, Alexa, Compete) I would like to posit that the reason for the drop is because of your auto-bury procedure. First, by auto-burying thousands of sites you've insured that about 25 sites make up the bulk of the news on Digg, therefore lowering the value of your news aggregation service. Why go to Digg when I can go to these sites directly. Second, many of the people associated with the sites you've banned have stopped visiting Digg (were talking tens of thousands of people) and will quickly embrace an alternative once it comes along--and it will if you do not rethink your policies.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Urbanist — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:06:35 -0000

I wonder if this will reach Kevin or not - there are some powerful Diggers who both voted for and commented on the post as well as on the Digg submission. How can he not notice? At the same time, this has been an issue for a long time, so maybe he just doesn't care - or we need to speak even louder ;)

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

anon — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:51:58 -0000

Has anyone noted Mrbabyman had been digging very profoundly for http://www.darkroastedblend... even though he failed many times with that site. Is Mrbabyman has some interests in that site or are the some of the digger getting paid to digg?

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Virat — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:10:48 -0000

@ Josh: How can Mr.BabyMan go against Digg? Nor can he go against Kevin. Kevin in a way is his master who give him his bread & butter. And is the case of many others like zaibatsu.
Only those diggers like Saleem & tamar & all who have their standing & a base can comment against digg.
Have you ever seen Babyman digging anything against digg? big no!
In case of Saleem its seen many a times. And the end result have you observed that these days Saleem needs hell of diggs to make it to the front page & at times even more than 150 & still it wont make it.
He is paying the price of his standing & so will Tamar have too.
Remember its not easy to stand for yourself & make a statement & here Tamar made a statement against the MIGHTY DIGG & EGOCENTRIC KEVIN THE GREAT who the average digger treat as there lord.
May in coming times we will see less & less of Tamar's stories on front page & it wont happen immediately KEVIN IS NO FOOL!

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Lee Robertson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:16:58 -0000

Good letter but somehow I don't think Digg will care. Pack up the Digg shirt and move on.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Rea Maor — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:36:50 -0000

Bravo tamar,
i hope Kevin will find the time to read it himself,
Digg did their first major error with the Code Censorship thingy
few months ago - i hope they've learned enough from their mistakes and avoid all the "behind the scene" editing.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Webomatica — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:09:22 -0000

This is a good issue to raise, thanks for doing it. I can think of several blogs (including my own) that have the issue of stories being "auto buried" which leads to paranoid thoughts of a "bury brigade". But the end result of this situation for me is that I don't use digg very much anymore. I don't need digg traffic anymore to have a successful site.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

tamar — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:05:16 -0000

Josh: who cares? I haven't written this to get Diggs. I've written this to bring a long-standing issue to the attention of the people who can make a difference.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Jane — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:28 -0000

"Of course, that definitely raises some eyebrows considering that this is an extreme mathematic anomaly..."

As I just said to you on IM, lmao. You have to love the fact that not only does it list three less stories submitted than made popular, but that the percentage accurately reflects the lying figures. At least that part of their algo is accurate.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Josh — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:48:46 -0000

How come your buddy MrBabyMan (http://digg.com/users/MrBab... has missed to digg this story?

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

engtech — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:32:38 -0000

Good luck getting the message through, unfortunately I think the issues with burying are locked in stone. If you're a content creator then that's as good as being a spammer in some people's books.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

DragonFly — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:47:17 -0000

I posted http://www.politicallyoutsp... a while back at my blogsite regarding a group of individuals who appeared to be monitoring my submissions for topics they obviously don't want others to read even though many in the digg community find them diggworthy.

I've written Kevin Rose and company four emails regarding submissions that mysteriously disappeared (one was poised at the very top of the 'upcoming' list with votes and comments still coming in), as well as a few others that moved rapidly up the cue with comments - when all of a sudden - poof - gone.
Logically speaking, this shouldn't have happened.

By the way, I've never gotten a reply to my emails.

I've taken some of those same articles to 'coRank' and 'stirrdup' and they've gone right to frontpage.

I'm quite concerned about what is going on at 'Digg' and have been wondering if the real reason for the majority of my buried posts has more to do with internal censorship than with a group of diggers systematically burying my submissions.

So your post is timely for me.
Thanks, and please keep us informed.

('iDragonFly' at 'Digg')

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

BillyWarhol — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:37:36 -0000

Who gives a Flying Fart*

It's all about Self Promo + Vanity*

Give some Attention to DARFUR or Bush's Illegal War in Iraq*

;))

Peace*

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

weee — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:07:28 -0000

Digg is dead long live Hugg!

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

Bill Hartzer — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:59:58 -0000

I totally agree--stories that are auto-buried should be banned. But again, have you considered the fact that they might not have a problem with the domain but they might have a problem with the story itself? Perhaps there's some sort of filter that looks for certain characteristics...and auto-buries it (e.g., if the story is a dupe or something).

As for what's going on with that particular profile, you're right--something doesn't look right with Kevin Rose's profile.

Re: An Open Letter to Kevin Rose

HMTKSteve — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:44:01 -0000

If you want a clear indicator od wether digg is targeting you (as a blogger) or not is to launch a new site with no ties to your "auto-bury" site and see if the same content makes digg's home page. I have done this and you know what? The same content on a different domain makes the front page!

So, what does that tell you about the bury system?